• April 17, 2018, 8:09 a.m.

    Soooo...with the new site in the works, the officers and standard bearers have been thinking some things over, among others potentially changing the ODO logo on the website (the big 3 factions emblems layered over one another that is on the front page, top left) and on Discord (the server icon). Reasons why:

    Discord: the current one has a lot going on, it's meant to be the 3 factions emblems within the 3 letters, but it's scaled so small that it just comes off as a lot of texture on a small surface. Maybe we could use something clearer and simpler.

    Website: similarly to the Discord one, is really flashy and has a lot going on, but more importantly, we've heard back that even though it's supposed to be representative of a multi-faction cabal, the templar cross in front is too pronounced. So far, the general feeling among the officers regarding the look of the new website has been, and I quote: "Keep it extremely simple stuffed with simple and with minimalism gravy" (because we're good at words), so that means something as fancy and flashy is just not going to work.

    Here's the kicker. Bri got bored at work and whipped up some options that are not bad at all, but I'd like to hereby ask for any other submissions for the website logo - so if you get bored at work and have always felt like being a graphic designer is all you ever really wanted to be, share it here! We were thinking it'd be cool to ask for submissions (in the form of even a sketch or ideas, to avoid anyone having to put too much work into something that might not get selected) and then put together a shortlist that we could all vote on with a poll on the website to select a new logo. The only thing you'd have to keep in mind is the extremely specific guideline of "minimalism gravy", not pronouncing one faction over the other and keeping in mind that preferably the logo should look clear no matter the size - i.e. tiny details might just look like random texture when scaling the logo down.

    To get the ball rolling, I'm attaching the ones Bri did:

    (1) This is the one we're currently thinking for Discord, since it looks good and clear small, it's already round and fits into the allowed space and shape neatly. But of course if you think it's hideous or you have an idea of your own, please share.
    Discord 1.png

    Other ones were meant for the website logo (I think, although (2) would work for Discord, too):

    (2)
    szkic.png

    (3)
    szkic2.png

    (4)
    500x500-kinda-same-ish.png

    (5)
    dice.png

    szkic2.png

    PNG, 37.7 KB, uploaded by Dominy on May 10, 2018.

    szkic.png

    PNG, 43.4 KB, uploaded by Dominy on May 10, 2018.

    Discord 1.png

    PNG, 2.8 KB, uploaded by Dominy on May 10, 2018.

    dice.png

    PNG, 35.1 KB, uploaded by Dominy on May 10, 2018.

    500x500-kinda-same-ish.png

    PNG, 48.2 KB, uploaded by Dominy on May 10, 2018.

  • April 19, 2018, 11:11 p.m.

    Not really the point rn, guys 😝 Still waiting for other submissions.

  • May 12, 2018, 7:04 a.m.

    Remember that these ideas aren't fully finished, many of them were drawn up as concept ideas, not polished final pieces. 😎

    One of the things we need to logo for is to provide the little icon on browser windows, so we need something which will be clear in a small size. I've added a resized version of each of the above, just to give an easy way to see what they'd look like small.

    64x64szkic.jpg

    JPG, 1.3 KB, uploaded by AWOL on May 12, 2018.

    64x64kinda-sa.jpg

    JPG, 1.4 KB, uploaded by AWOL on May 12, 2018.

    64x64dice.jpg

    JPG, 1.6 KB, uploaded by AWOL on May 12, 2018.

    64x64discord-1.jpg

    JPG, 1.8 KB, uploaded by AWOL on May 12, 2018.

    64x64szkic2.jpg

    JPG, 1000 bytes, uploaded by AWOL on May 12, 2018.

  • May 12, 2018, 7:11 a.m.

    Personally, I like the logo we're currently using on discord. It's got more detail than it needs when it's small, but it's still clear enough to be visible even in tiny form on my bookmarks bar.
    After that, I like the letters within letters as it's very simple and clean. I think the dice could work, but we'd have to look at the order of the letters and perhaps see if that makes it look better. I don't think the others really work when anything but big. I like the designs, and it may be possible to increase the line size to make them more visible, but they're just too indistinct atm.

  • May 12, 2018, 7:12 a.m.

    1 and 5 do well scaled.

    They are both simple enough to even be svgs and can easily have their color reverted to support white and black backgrounds.

    As @AWOL says, the logo variant we are currently using also works. What we currently have is okish, but it could have been better. We might risk ending up with something worse by changing it.

  • May 12, 2018, 11:27 a.m.

    I like (1) for discord, (4) for the website - it looks fine scaled down and as a bigger logo, I think the shapes add a cool faction/game reference, better than the dice. I think the point of the logo primarily would be to use it on the site itself (which would be bigger) and any recruitment posts/accounts we might have anywhere, maybe? So we can't have the world revolve around the website icon on the browser. Whether or not that looks detailed and cool is lower priority, imo. But as I said, I think (4) does both fine.

  • May 12, 2018, 12:21 p.m.

    I think the point of having a logo is that there's just one of them. If you look around the website, there aren't many places where the logo is used anyway. That means that the primary uses of the logo will be on discord and the tiny icon on browser tabs. I think that scaled down, 4 loses the shapes which attract me to it as a large image.

  • May 12, 2018, 1:45 p.m.

    Then I must have misunderstood, I thought we were replacing both as they were before - the one on the website and the one on Discord (as they were separate before I didn't even consider having just one for both). I personally see nothing bad about it, with a website/recruitment forum posts logo separate from the discord server icon (that we don't use anywhere else), as it gives us a little more options. For the occasions that the logo is large and visible, I'd like something eye-catching and game-reference-y, but that gets lost when scaled down. I think rather than limit ourselves so hard, it could be worth just going for more cohesion, maybe colour-scheme or design-wise. What I mean by that is that the current Discord icon and the symbol on the old website did not match up even one bit. But if we used (1) for Discord and then any of the other ones for the site, it already looks a crapton more cohesive in terms of colour and geometric design.

  • May 12, 2018, 2:21 p.m.

    The logos used by web pages are:

    Browser tab image (favicon.ico):

    forums.omnedatumoptimum.red/static/favicon.ico

    Top bar logo (logo.png):

    forums.omnedatumoptimum.red/static/misago/img/logo.png

    Open Graph image fetched by Discord and social media when pasting a link to the site (og-image.jpg):
    See The Open Graph protocol.

    forums.omnedatumoptimum.red/static/og-image.jpg

    The last one is also most likely used as Discord icon. Discord keeps the original image and scales it to different sizes based on the Discord client used. Some clients use larger icons. The main point here is that it needs to be large as an og-image and discord image.

  • May 12, 2018, 4:37 p.m.

    The discord logo didn't use the cross from the old site because when scaled down it was hard to make out anything other than the white + symbol in the middle of the cross. The idea was always to be using one logo, but there was never one settled on.

  • May 12, 2018, 5:57 p.m.

    Exactly my point :D I think having a discord icon be of a different design, but cohesive, is not a huge crime. I just think that trying to find a perfect one where it does not look too unrelated to the game or plain when scaled up, yet looks clear scaled down might be a tad unrealistic. But maybe I'm just unimaginative. If we had to use one of those five options for both, though, I'd go with (1) - something about the geometric simplicity...fits the website too.

  • May 12, 2018, 6:55 p.m.

    I think that in terms of having a logo which would show on discord and browser tabs, it's a good idea to stick to one to help link it all together. In terms of homepage artwork, we wouldn't have to be using the logo exclusively, there's all kinds of different art styles that we could use. Being plain when scaled up doesn't have to be a bad thing - twitter is very fond of using their logo in huge size and it's still a simple design.

  • May 12, 2018, 9:18 p.m.

    I made this for shits and giggles, posting it here, too (satisfies my want for faction/game reference). No idea how to get it in vector or to make it look like not trash. Someone with more skill is welcome to do so, this was just the general idea.

    templar22.jpg

    JPG, 12.9 KB, uploaded by Cayr on May 12, 2018.

  • May 13, 2018, 5:46 a.m.

    The vector version looks like this, also tried it with the lumie logo filling the D entirely. I can totally understand the thinking behind putting the faction logos in, but I think in this case that it makes the letters almost unreadable.

    letters factions v2.png

    PNG, 81.0 KB, uploaded by AWOL on May 13, 2018.

    letters factions.png

    PNG, 91.1 KB, uploaded by AWOL on May 13, 2018.

  • Retired 87 posts
    May 13, 2018, 11:34 a.m.

    I've been thinking...
    That the logo basically just says - yo, we're called ODO (if you can decipher it) and we're multifaction, yo. Like dozens of other cabals, really, just with different letters
    So, feeling kinda weird, I created The Bunnycorn of ODO.
    Black:
    odo-bunny2.png

    odo-bunny2.png

    PNG, 8.0 KB, uploaded by Briseadh on May 13, 2018.

    odobunny-3.png

    PNG, 10.0 KB, uploaded by Briseadh on May 13, 2018.

  • Retired 87 posts
    May 13, 2018, 11:38 a.m.

    Vector versions of combined factions (I still don't like this idea, as it is generic af):
    Faction icons:
    odologo-colour-factions.png

    Just colours:
    1.png

    1.png

    PNG, 4.1 KB, uploaded by Briseadh on May 13, 2018.

    odologo-colour-factions.png

    PNG, 4.7 KB, uploaded by Briseadh on May 13, 2018.