• March 13, 2018, 6:37 a.m.

    For now, the bank is serving passively to people's needs as when people check the bank, find something they want, they will ask for it.
    However, if something is not in bank, they will not ask while still in need of that.
    Maybe we shall encourage people to tell us what item or even active(lair/regional/NYR) they need so that we can make a better logistics system.

    A good practice is http://omnedatumoptimum.red/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=1547 (If we don't have that post, I guess most of museum item will just turned into shards XD)
    However, people may be too shy to say what they want. Or consider the needs will be unlikely to fulfill, but the point is, at least we can know if an item is useful to others.

  • March 13, 2018, 12:50 p.m.

    I'm not sure about this one tbh.

    On the one hand, yes, it would be great to be able to be proactive in terms of helping people out, because our current method is entirely reactive.

    On the other hand, there are a lot of logistics to try and work out to make sure the system worked and didn't feel like other people were being prioritised over them and that it was fair.
    Item wish lists are tricky - specially if you've got a whole cabal of people with personal wish lists. For example, say people want signets of laceration. It's a popular item, so how do you decide who gets them? There's also a much stronger potential to feel either obliged to help out, or that somehow there is a right to ask for someone else to give them stuff. It's great when people donate, and when it's rare stuff which has little game value like museum pieces, many people are going to be fine with being asked to donate it if it drops for them.
    With items with high value though, that gets trickier. Agent drops would be another good one to think of - many people are hunting for the same agents, and because of the high demand, those agents are also likely to sell well.

    It's the same kind of reason that DKP systems were introduced for raids really :S

  • March 13, 2018, 1:38 p.m.

    I think it's a good idea, however I do see AWOL's concerns. But I think we could have a place where people could post their "wishlists", see other people's ones and then decide what they want to donate to whom, on a strictly voluntary basis. It should not be about pressuring people to donate things.

    There was also a brief discussion about potentially tying a wishlist-like stuff into the KAPs system once it gets re-implemented on the new site, but..I'll let someone else get into that, or will later, when it's past "maybe-sorta-kinda".

  • March 13, 2018, 4:19 p.m.

    Could be possible to make a simple item request system, but that will need well though out design. If we just post it on the forum, how will that be managable over time? Not entirely sure.

    Will the thread or system be used?
    How do we deal with "stale" entries?

    Subforum that auto purge 4 week old threads maybe? Then people can request stuff there and hope someone reads it. That could be a decent experiment.

  • Retired 5 posts
    March 15, 2018, 10:57 a.m.

    New member, but still, maybe an idea cause I see AWOL's point.

    Let's look at agents for instance. They sell well, so I guess having someone ask for Agent XYZ leads to a guildie not earning approx. 200k MoF. I can understand why the guy with the drop would not "donate" that.

    What if we do a list with a price tag, the guy wanting an item could add? Not for easy pickups but for the ones that sell for huge money.

    I, for example, am looking for the "fossil" tali with 3 PIP. No chance so far in AH, so i run with a 2 PIP. But if someone in cabal gets the drop, and tells me, I am happy to pay the appropriate MoF price. Would be a win win - finder gets MoF, searcher gets item. Things stay in cabal, and do not go to random.

    Just my 2 cents...

  • March 15, 2018, 12:38 p.m.

    What's the full name of that talk? Not remembering a fossil tbh

  • Retired 5 posts
    March 15, 2018, 6:35 p.m.

    Razor Fossil, the one that buffs damage and builds up stacks up to five times - but I did not post cause I was asking for it, but to contribute my thoughts πŸ˜‰

  • March 16, 2018, 8:03 a.m.

    Aaah πŸ˜€ my brain was drawing a complete blank 😝

  • March 17, 2018, 9:04 a.m.

    The cabal bank is constantly full, it somehow means almost nobody needs the items inside.
    Maybe we can try to use a column of bank reserved to this request/provide system.
    For example, if someone is playing a specific weapon, that person may ask that weapons specific signets.
    So, whenever we find such signets, we can deliver it direct to that person if they are online. Or, store it in that column of bank if they are not.

    As we know things we put in there will be needed, we can expect items move much effective there. πŸ˜€

  • The Slacker
    March 24, 2018, 3:19 p.m.

    If you have, say, ten people participating, a whole cabal bank page could not be enough, sadly.
    I see the usefulness of a system like this: in TSW I had something similar going on with my old cabalies (it worked well when farming signets in NM zones), but applying to a large number of players could be difficult.
    Maybe we could start with a β€œwho needs what” thread?